โTo the ones who think weโre not good enough or canโt do the job, well, youโre wrong, for a start. We can do it just as well as you,โ says Jess Ryder, a third-year apprentice electrician.
Just three per cent of the Australian skilled trades sector are women, and Jess is proud to be adding her name to the growing list of trailblazing female tradies.
Comprising such a small percentage, visibility for women who work in the trades is low, although there has been significant improvement over the past 30 years.
At 39 years old, Jess is set to become a fully qualified electrician after completing one more year of study.
To shed a light on female trade workers, Jess shared with Canberra Daily her journey entering the trades sector, her experiences working on job sites, and her support for other women looking to enter a trade.
Throwing her hat in the ring to become an electrical apprentice happened by pure chance, explains Jess.
She was working as a dental assistant in 2010 when she heard an ad on the radio from the Australian Council of Trade Unions (ACTU) that they were looking for apprentices.
After initially being rejected on her first application, Jess was hired in an alternative role within the ACT, and hasnโt looked back.
โI like it. I know a lot of women have issues and harassment and all that kind of jazz, but I havenโt actually experienced anything like that, and I get on really well with all the guys that Iโve worked with โฆ even when I was a vegetation inspector,โ Jess says.
Although, she does admit there are times she feels she has to tell the men on her site theyโve taken a joke too far.
โFor the most part with the men, itโs relaxed, jokingโฆ unless things arenโt going well, then everyoneโs tense. I guess sometimes theyโre jokes can be a bi tโฆ saucy? But Iโm not easily offended,โ she says.
โYou just got to let them go unless itโs seriously bad. I have said โguys, nup, too farโ. I have said that, but generally theyโre not too bad.โ
Jess is one of about eight females in her particular cohort in Canberra and the only female in her class at Global Energy Training Solutions.
โIโm the oldest and the only female in my class โ the first day I was looking around like, โI could have given birth to all of youโ,โ Jess smiles.
Seemingly unfazed by being so outnumbered, she says her female coworkers have found ways to stay connected with one another, with the support of their supervisors.
โWeโre all scattered off in different sections, so we donโt actually get to see each other very often. So, weโve started up this thing where we meet up on work time, with permission, and just catch up and get to know each other,โ she says.
โA lot of us donโt have friends who work in the trade, so they donโt get what weโre talking about, and they canโt really relate as well as someone else. So, we just do this girlsโ catch-up as a support group.โ
The initiative was founded by one of the older women in the field when Jess was beginning her own career, and once she left the business, it fizzled out.
When two new female apprentices started working this year, Jess asked her general manager to reinstate it, so the older women can help guide the younger women through their apprenticeships.
โI thought we should probably get to know them and introduce ourselves to them so they know weโre there, and they can talk to us,โ Jess says.
โWe point them in the right director for things, give them my number so they can call me, and then we just talk about our lives โ itโs not all work, Iโve got to be honest.
โWe just say weโre here, and youโre not alone.โ
Not being easily offended is a trait Jess says is helpful on a work site, and she makes an effort to let the men know sheโs not there to change their culture.
โI try to let them know that Iโm not like a prissy little princess thatโs going to be offended at every little thing they say,โ she says.
โI think they sometimes expect that, and you can see them checking themselves sometimes, but I think once they understand that Iโm not going to be out to get them in trouble for stuff, theyโre good.
โThey do apologise for swearing a lot and Iโm like, โIโm pretty sure I swear more than youโ.โ
Younger men tend to be more welcoming of women on the worksite than their older counterparts, says Jess, as itโs a new dynamic for them that they havenโt experienced before.
โI definitely feel like the younger tradies are really accepting because theyโve grown up seeing it, so theyโre cool with it,โ she says.
โItโs the older ones โฆ theyโre just not used to it because when they started, it was men โ thatโs it.
โBut most of them are pretty good at realising, โokay, sheโs alright, sheโs not going to ruin my worldโ.โ
But Jess says itโs important to draw the line.
โStand up for yourself, start how you mean to go on, and donโt let them get away with it straight away.
โYou just have to say, โhey, bit far mateโ and once youโve said that then they know.โ
When asked what is the hardest part about being a female in a heavily male-dominated sector, Jess reveals that for her, itโs herself.
โI donโt know if itโs more we put the pressure on ourselves, but the pressure to be good โ to prove yourself โ because you sort of feel like to be considered equal to or the same as everyone else, you have to be better,โ she says.
โSometimes the guys will help you โฆ and if Iโm feeling lazy Iโm like โyeah, alrightโ but sometimes youโre like โno, no, I can do itโ. Youโve got to prove yourself.
โWe actually have two women โliniesโ [power line electricians], which is pretty good because itโs quite a physically demanding job and not a lot of women want to do it.โ
Sometimes, according to Jess, the second difficult part is the bathroom situation. But she says if she doesnโt have access to a bathroom, she has a gym club membership and just heads to the nearest club she can find.
Access to toilet facilities has been shown to be a barrier for women in the trades, and the Electrical Trades Union is working towards creating mandating minimum standards for workplace amenities to ensure every worker has a safe and healthy bathroom.
To any male tradies still living with the old-school mentality than women arenโt made for the trades, Jess is more than happy to prove them wrong.
โWeโre not here to steal your jobs, weโre not here to make you change who you are. Weโre just here to work like you are, so just treat us as if youโd treat anybody else and everything will be fine,โ she says.
โAll we want as women is the chance, the opportunity to try it. We donโt want special treatment or anything like that.
โJust treat us the same and with respect โ thatโs all we want. We just want the chance to do it.โ
Jess smiles as she talks about the encouragement and sense of solidarity other women give her when she reveals sheโs a tradie, including from older women, who would not have grown up seeing females working on job sites.
โMost women when they realise, theyโre like โwow, thatโs really good!โ. Iโve never really had negative feedback from women โฆ even older women are like, โgo you!โ,โ Jess smiles.
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